Finding Harmony Podcast

Breaking Free from Extremes: The Journey from Discipline to Balance

In this powerful episode of Finding Harmony Podcast, we welcome back Kate Winter, a registered psychodynamic counselor, yoga teacher, and former police detective, to explore the deep patterns that shape our behavior—and how we can break free from them.
Kate shares her personal journey of moving through extremes—from marathon running and bodybuilding to Ashtanga yoga and psychotherapy—and how each phase of her life revealed deeper lessons about control, identity, and healing.
Trigger Warning
This episode discusses topics that may be sensitive for some listeners, including eating disorders, body image struggles, exercise addiction, trauma, and fertility challenges. If these topics are triggering for you, please listen with care or seek support from a trusted professional.
 
Key Topics Discussed:
The patterns of competition and self-worth that drive overachievers
Why resistance isn’t something to fight—it’s something to listen to
The role of therapy in complementing yoga practice for deeper
self-awareness
How letting go of control allowed Kate to get pregnant after years of struggle
The connection between somatic experience, psychotherapy, and healing trauma
What happens when we stop pushing and start trusting our bodies
This episode is a must-listen if you’ve ever struggled with perfectionism, discipline, or the fear of slowing down. Kate’s story is a beautiful reminder that true transformation often begins with letting go.
Kate Winter is a Psychodynamic Psychotherapist based in Brighton in the UK. 
 
As a former Police Officer and senior leader in a Rape Crisis Centre, Kate has spent the past twenty years working on the frontline of trauma. Moving away from the idea that trauma is something to be 'healed', Kate works on the premise that trauma can be used as a vehicle for individual and collective transformation. 
 
With additional experience as an Ashtanga yoga practitioner and Personal Trainer, Kate uses traditional psychoanalysis, yoga philosophy and movement practices to help clients bring about lasting change.
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How to Break Free from Limiting Beliefs and Step into Your Power

“You can’t build a new life while telling yourself the same old story.”
If you’ve ever felt stuck, undervalued, or afraid to take up space, this episode is for you.
Harmony sits down with Dr. Julie Artis, career coach, sociologist, and advocate for women’s leadership. They get real about why so many women struggle with self-worth, how old societal patterns still shape our financial lives, and—most importantly—how we can rewrite the story and step fully into our power.
What’s Inside This Episode?
Why so many women fear visibility—and how to move past it
The simple reflection rituals that can help you release old patterns
Why your inner critic isn’t your enemy (and what it’s really trying to tell you)
The game-changing power of community and why we thrive together
How to stop seeing success as a solo mission and embrace collaboration over competition
“We’re not meant to just survive—we’re meant to thrive. And when women thrive, entire communities transform.” — Harmony Slater
QUOTES TO REMEMBER:
“Women have been taught to shrink. It’s time to take up space.”
“If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.”
“Every time a woman claims her worth, the world changes for the better.”
How to Connect & Work with Julie Artis
Website: Julie Artis Coaching
Instagram: @DrJulieArtis
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Following Your Aliveness: The Path to Energy Healing and Spiritual Business

What if the key to success wasn’t about grinding harder but about aligning with what truly lights you up?
In this Finding Harmony Podcast solo episode, host Harmony Slater gets raw and real about the unconventional path that led her to energy healing, business coaching, and creating a purpose-driven life. From early transcendental experiences as a child to navigating burnout, business pivots, and deep transformational work, Harmony shares the power of following your aliveness.
She unpacks how saying yes to the right things (and no to the misaligned ones) shaped her journey—from banking to philosophy, from yoga teacher to international retreat leader, and from overworking to energy flow mastery.
 In this episode, you’ll discover:
 The role of subtle energy in transformation and why your body is your best business coach
How unconscious blocks create resistance and keep you stuck in cycles of burnout or avoidance
Why strategy alone won’t build a sustainable business if the energy behind it isn’t aligned
The game-changing moment that made Harmony invest in her business education
The difference between masculine structure (grit, goals, systems) and feminine flow (intuition, alignment, ease) in business and spiritual growth
The secrets behind building a thriving yoga, coaching, and energy healing practice—without sacrificing personal well-being
How Spinal Energetics, coaching, and yoga work together to create radical transformation
This is the episode for you if you’re feeling stuck, drained, or out of sync with your purpose. Tune in and let’s get you realigned with your aliveness.
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Embracing Feminine Energy in Ashtanga Yoga Practice

What if the yoga practice you love isn’t actually working for you?
For years, women have molded themselves to fit the rigid structure of Ashtanga yoga—waking up at the crack of dawn, practicing through exhaustion, sidelining their intuition to follow the “correct” method. But what if we could embrace a softer, more fluid, more feminine approach to the practice without losing its power?
That’s exactly what The Ashtanga Women’s Project is all about, and in this episode, Harmony sits down with its founder, Carmen Yagüe, to unpack what it means to show up fully as a woman in Ashtanga yoga.
They dive deep into:
🔹 How the Ashtanga system, designed by men, doesn’t always serve women’s unique bodies and rhythms
🔹 Why pushing through practice can sometimes disconnect us rather than bring us home to ourselves
🔹 The power of intuition, self-inquiry, and giving yourself permission to do yoga your way
🔹 How we can build more supportive, collaborative communities instead of falling into competition and hierarchy
🔹 The bold, beautiful act of reclaiming personal agency in a practice that often feels prescriptive
Carmen shares her own journey of stepping away from the traditional Ashtanga model, closing her yoga studio, and creating a new space where women can move, breathe, and practice in a way that actually feels good.
If you’ve ever felt trapped in the rules of your yoga practice—or life—this episode will remind you that you have the power to make your own.
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What is Light Language? Healing, Activation & Higher Consciousness

Have you ever heard a language that bypasses the mind and speaks directly to the heart? In this episode, Harmony Slater explores the fascinating world of light language with Debra Clark, founder of Mystic Heart Space. If you’ve ever experienced the deep vibrations of sound healing, channeled energy, or spontaneous intuitive messages, you’re already closer to understanding this universal form of communication than you might think.
Debra, a Certified Master Light Language Healer, shares her personal awakening—how she transitioned from mediumship to channeling interdimensional beings and discovered the profound healing power of sound frequencies. Together, she and Harmony dive into:
✨ The origins and purpose of light language—what it is, how it’s channeled, and why it resonates so deeply.
✨ How vibration, frequency, and energy affect healing, self-discovery, and spiritual activation.
✨ The role of starseeds, lightworkers, and cosmic consciousness in our collective evolution.
✨ Practical ways to transmute energy, clear emotional blocks, and reconnect with your higher self.
As Debra puts it, “The way out is in.” Whether you’re new to these ideas or already exploring multidimensional consciousness, this conversation offers a powerful invitation to listen, feel, and maybe even activate your own soul’s language.
 
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The Science of Energy: Bridging Eastern and Western Practices

The way we think about health is changing. It’s no longer a question of either science or intuition, either Western medicine or Eastern tradition. It’s about the way they inform and expand each other.
That’s exactly what today’s guest, Morgan Lee, has spent his career exploring. He started in the high-pressure world of emergency medicine—first as an EMT, then as a registered nurse—and over time, his focus shifted. He became an authorized Level 2 Ashtanga Yoga teacher, a Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) practitioner, and an acupuncturist—an evolution that followed his own personal healing journey.
In this conversation, we get into:
How acupuncture and yoga work in parallel, despite coming from different traditions
The way energy moves through the body—and why it matters
The emotional weight we carry in our tissues, and what happens when we start working with it
The connection between meridians, chakras, and Western anatomy
What it was like to transition from conventional medicine into a world many people still consider “alternative”
Morgan’s approach is refreshingly practical. He isn’t interested in mysticism for mysticism’s sake—he’s focused on what works, what’s real, and what can actually make a difference in how you feel.
Whether you’re here for the science or the subtlety, there’s something in this episode for you.
Connect with Morgan:
Find him on Instagram at @ashtanganurse or visit his website for consultations and upcoming workshops.
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Facing Life’s Triggers: Achieving Inner Peace Through Self-Reflection

In this profound and deeply personal episode of the Finding Harmony Podcast, Harmony and Russell are joined once again by Hector Marcel, president of the Three Jewels Tibetan Center in New York City, meditation teacher, and Buddhist practitioner. Together, they explore the transformative power of self-reflection, the inevitability of life’s challenges, and how death meditation can help us embrace life and loss with clarity and compassion.
Hector shares wisdom from his decades of Buddhist practice, offering a fresh perspective on grief, pre-grieving, and the spiritual tools that allow us to navigate the chaos of modern life with grace. From the files of our mind to the crabs-in-a-bucket metaphor, this conversation will encourage you to shift your perspective and plant the seeds of peace and resilience.
Topics discussed in this episode include:
How our perceptions shape our reality and why managing “mind files” is key to self-awareness.
The art of pre-grieving and how death meditation can transform our approach to life and loss.
Navigating controversies in spiritual communities and finding your personal truth amid collective judgment.
The power of karma and compassion to heal our relationships with ourselves and others.
The role of meditation in cultivating an observer mind to rise above life’s triggers.
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On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wakeupist/
Three Jewels: https://www.threejewels.org/
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Bathed, Beaten, and Blessed: Making Everyday objects sacred

In this episode of the Finding Harmony Podcast, Harmony and Russell welcome two vibrant and wildly creative guests, Spiros Antonopoulos and Barry Silver. Known for their bold artistic ventures, they join forces to share a remarkable story of blending ancient spiritual traditions with modern conceptual art. Their project, Gently Down: Bathed, Beaten, and Blessed, turns everyday objects like t-shirts into sacred talismans infused with spiritual intention.
 
Discover how Spiros and Barry draw inspiration from the Kumbh Mela, ancient rituals, and astrological insights to create pieces that bridge the gap between the mundane and the miraculous. With humor, deep love, and genuine passion, they reflect on their collaborative journey and the challenges of intertwining art, spirituality, and friendship.
 
What You’ll Learn:
The origins of the Gently Down project and its significance.
Insights into the Kumbh Mela and its spiritual importance.
How art and ritual can transform ordinary objects into sacred talismans.
The creative and spiritual practices behind their work.
How astrology and ancient wisdom inspire their artistic expression.
 
Connect with the Guests:
Follow Spiros Antonopoulos @souljerky and Barry Silver @gbsk on Instagram for updates on their work and travels.
Follow the Gently Down project on Instagram: @gentlydownproject.
Explore more about Gently Down at gentlydownproject.com.
 
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A Path to Holistic Healing Through Spinal Energetics

In this transformative episode of Finding Harmony, Harmony connects with Amanda O’Mara, a spinal energetics practitioner, somatic business coach, and intuitive healer. Together, they explore the profound world of spinal energetics, a practice that works at the intersection of energy, body, and mind to release trauma and create space for growth and transformation.
Amanda shares her incredible journey from growing up in a large family, battling anxiety, and navigating life’s challenges to discovering her calling as a healer. From near-death experiences to business success, Amanda’s story highlights the power of energy healing in rewriting our narratives and expanding our potential.
 
Tune in to learn how spinal energetics works, the unique ways it taps into the nervous system, and Amanda’s inspiring insights into integrating light language and other energy practices into her work.
 
Topics Discussed:
What is spinal energetics?
How trauma manifests in the body and nervous system
The role of somatic and energy work in healing
Amanda’s personal journey through anxiety, perfectionism, and transformation
The science and intuition behind energy healing
Real-life client transformations through spinal energetics
Integrating yoga, light language, and energy work for holistic healing
 
Connect with Amanda:
Instagram: @agape_holistic_healing
Website: agapeholistichealing.com
Podcast: CalmCEO Podcast
 
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Transforming Grief through Practice and Connection

Harmony Slater is joined by Angela Jamison, a certified Ashtanga Yoga teacher with over two decades of practice. Together, they reflect on the recent passing of their beloved guru, R. Sharath Jois, who left his body during a serene walk in the forest. Angela shares her profound experience of being present during his final moments, offering a unique perspective on grief, community, and the enduring legacy of a teacher’s spirit.
 
The conversation delves into the teacher-student relationship, the sacredness of embodied practice, and how grief can open pathways for deeper connection. Angela and Harmony explore the power of community in navigating loss, reflecting on their shared experiences in Mysore and how they were shaped by Sharath’s teachings. This episode is a beautiful reminder of the importance of joy, simplicity, and love in practice and in life.
 
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
Angela’s personal journey in Ashtanga Yoga and her spiritual connection with R. Sharath Jois.
How the Ashtanga community came together after Sharath’s passing to support one another in profound ways.
Insights into the spiritual and emotional aspects of grief, and how yoga can help navigate this journey.
The transformative power of embodiment and its role in accessing deeper states of consciousness.
Sharath’s legacy: the simplicity, joy, and love he infused into his teachings and community.
 
Connect with Angela Jamison:
Visit Angela’s yoga studio, Ashtanga Yoga Ann Arbor: Website
Read Angela’s writings on her blog: Inside Owl
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The reflections and teachings in this episode are shared in loving memory of R. Sharath Jois and are intended to inspire listeners to embrace the depth and beauty of their practice.
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